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sunnycamehome2u wrote in fail_fandomanon
Inspired by spnpermanon.

The fail wars are going about and it's time for an anon meme.

Who's pissed you off? Who's right? And who do you really want to exclude from an event?

ETA: leave people's religion alone. Not the time, not the place.   PM : sunnycamehome2u or email @gmail if it gets out of hand before I see.

ETA2: ALL fandom fail is on topic. While right now it's disability, VividCon, and Slingbabies, it can be any FandomFail. Mods take a wide view of what is fandom.

ETA3: The entire meme is a "Choose Not to Warn" experience, but that said- there is lots of discussion of sexual assault and triggers in some of the comment threads. Others of course, are about kittens.  It is 50/50 which you will stumble into.

People are welcome to make an additional post, or ask the mods to do so.


ETA4: THIS POST IS AT 5100 COMMENTS. TAKE ALL NEW DISCUSSION HERE: http://community.livejournal.com/fail_fandomanon/682.html.

The post as been given a stay. Feel free to finish up conversations in this post till it dies a natural death, peacefully, in it's bed. Without warning.

Does everyone in fandom have some social disorder?
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Yes. It's a joining requirement.
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orz
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The Spoon Theory: http://www.butyoudontlooksick.com/articles/personal-essays/the-spoon-theory-written-by-christine-miserandino/

You quote it, I keep score. In fandom it now serves as shorthand for "I'm a fuck up who can't be bothered to write my J2 Big Bang. Buy me a laptop?"
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I'm sick to death of how the spoon metaphor keeps getting used as cutesy shorthand for running out of energy. Look, if you don't have the energy or patience to deal with a thing, then *just fucking say that.*
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I hate merryish so much.
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Second!
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I hate laurashapiro more.
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Why? I don't recall her doing anything terrible, but I haven't been keeping up with the wank.
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Breeders Fuck Everything Up

(Anonymous)

2010-07-05 02:06 am (UTC)

http://naraht.dreamwidth.org/403950.html?format=light

Please keep your baby out of my porn. Kthxbye!


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Re: Breeders Fuck Everything Up

(Anonymous)

2010-07-05 02:23 am (UTC)

I keep seeing headlines: Vividcon Bans Babies!!!!!! and then couldn't stop laughing.

I am certain that kittens will be next. Vividcon Skins Kittens!!!
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Breeders still fucking it up

(Anonymous)

2010-07-05 03:13 am (UTC)



http://astolat.dreamwidth.org/216801.html?thread=1#cmt5400545

deepad states the following:
"I do think that it is important and worthwhile though, for attendees with children to know that while spaces in the com are off-limits for their children, the con as a whole does not disapprove of children in such places as they may be - a parent or guardian should feel welcome to sit and chat in the lobby, or host an unofficial room party, or enter the 2nd floor bathroom, with their kids."

FUCK NO. The CON AS A WHOLE DOES DISAPPROVE. THERE IS GAY PORN AT STAKE.

Unless you want to talk about the latest Sam/Dean/Castiel tentacle rape fic of the lord in earshot of some kid.

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Re: Breeders still fucking it up

(Anonymous)

2010-07-10 11:29 pm (UTC)

Note elfwreck in this thread...
http://naraht.dreamwidth.org/403950.html?thread=4242158#cmt4242158

...going on about how oppressive it is to teh chyldrunn to ban them from watching adult content. Someone in there is whining about how it's based on what "non-parents" think is child-appropriate. Damn fucking right. I don't want to watch an erotic video with a kid in the room, no matter how well-behaved.
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When did VVC policies become a referendum on vidding fandom? Supporting intersectionality and accommodation shouldn't mean bending over backward for people who aren't coming to the con.
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Except for Thuviaptarth, the most obnoxious people aren't even coming.

And if you have the multiple social disorder and emotional issues people are claiming?

Don't come to the damn con. Sometimes staying home is the better part of valor
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When did fandom get so goddamn serious? For fuck's sake, we write tentacle porn and ass babies.

PERSPECTIVE. PEOPLE. TRY SOME.
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Your ass babies are not welcome at VividCon!
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Hater's Gonna Hate

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2010-07-05 04:24 am (UTC)

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Re: Hater's Gonna Hate

(Anonymous)

2010-07-09 10:04 pm (UTC)

HERBIEP LOOKED BETTER BEFORE THE CONTACTS & DYE JOB IMHO
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i'm getting really sick of this thing where anyone with a dissenting opinion on any given fail gets linked to a bunch of "privilege 101" essays and is told to come back when they've edumacated themselves.

who's to say they haven't already done the required reading and still disagree? since when is fucking groupthink the fandom ideal?
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the following words automatically promise an incestuous circle jerk of a fight:

intersectionality
privilege check
kyrichary
derail
racism 101
"It is not the responsibility of the oppressed to educate"

Anyone who's really fucking racist? Or privileged? Isn't going to go read some treatise on why they are wrong and oppressing at all times. You wind up just fighting with allies.

Triggers vs. Squick is another sign that the argument is basically lost. When did you ever hear about people's right to avoid either outside of fandom? Can you imagine this in an office context?

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honestly though I feel like the demographic that gets really riled up about privilege wank is by definition going to be too passive-aggressive and politically correct to really sustain an anon meme :(

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Nothing supports an anon meme like passive aggressive people. It just needs to hit the right people.
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I demand VVC porn.
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I demand fandom stop being so fucking PC
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Is anyone else thinking that they'd rather get holes drilled into their skulls rather than attend VVC, which seem to be attended by humorless, oversensitive wankers?
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The actually VVC had a lovely drunken girls party to it. The wankers are all people who are not going, and if they did go, didn't go to the parties.
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When's the next rally?

(Anonymous)

2010-07-05 04:19 pm (UTC)

My protest signs are ready, I just can't find the tweet for when and where to assemble:

Vividcon Bans Babies!
Vividcon Stomps Kittens!
Vividcon Buggers Llamas
WARNING: CARTOONS!
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Re: When's the next rally?

(Anonymous)

2010-07-05 05:03 pm (UTC)

Vivid has always buggered llamas. Not sure that is a good one.
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Poll time!

(Anonymous)

2010-07-05 05:33 pm (UTC)

Fandom fic awards. Awesome or terrible idea?
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Re: Poll time!

(Anonymous)

2010-07-05 05:43 pm (UTC)

Awesome in theory.
But terrible in execution. The same five people get nominated for everything.
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With "Allies" Like This....

(Anonymous)

2010-07-05 05:44 pm (UTC)

Who needs enemies?

"I'm sorry, this is blistering mad but I am so fucking mad I can't take it, I never would have expected this from you and I'm deeply sad and hurt and frustrated and want to go to VVC and basically burn the con down at this point."

http://lcsbanana.dreamwidth.org/17395.html
(this is livi's comment to lcsbanana's post, not lcsbanana herself)

captcha: gump vehicles
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Re: With "Allies" Like This....

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2010-07-05 05:49 pm (UTC)

Way to go thingswithwings. Spouting off misinformed ignorance all over the internet like usual.
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I hate Thuviaptarth.
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She has been managing to fuck up fandom for a while. And don't ever put her on a panel. She's a terrible public speaker
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Wiscon

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2010-07-05 07:29 pm (UTC)

If I hear about the wonders of Wiscon one more time.....
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Re: Wiscon

(Anonymous)

2010-07-05 07:52 pm (UTC)

What is Wiscon about, anyway?

As far as I've read their greatest achievement this year was setting up a separate toilet for trans!people...
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We need to add this to the Warnings List

(Anonymous)

2010-07-05 07:33 pm (UTC)

Warning: Vid May Be Longer Than 3 Minutes.

I submit this with the utmost respect on behalf of ADD and AHDD sufferers everywhere.

I also object to the use of vid show overflow rooms because it makes serial yakkers, people who want to sing badly while drunk, and people who cannot stop texting feel like second class citizens.
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Re: We need to add this to the Warnings List

(Anonymous)

2010-07-05 07:46 pm (UTC)

How dare you suggest I must spend Vivid Con SOBER! My nursing baby and I demand to be everywhere.

It's not bad singing if you are drunk. It's community participation.
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I basically hate everyone now, and am instating a new policy where I don't read the journals of vidders/authors that I like because I can't enjoy their work after finding out they're pro-horse-raping or something. ALL OF MY FAVORITE VIDDERS CAN'T STOP APPROPRIATING THE "SPOONS" METAPHOR.
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I feel your pain.
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Defriending

(Anonymous)

2010-07-05 07:51 pm (UTC)

Anyone been defriended yet? Or de-accessed or whatever the dreamwidth people call it?
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Who's pissed me off? All the earnest twentysomethings who think they're Big Sister and are telling me what to read, what not to read, what to think, what to like, what to watch, what to condemn. Dammit, I wanna go see the stupid A:TLA movie *just* to piss some people off! (But I'm not gonna spend the money....)
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Get off my lawn

(Anonymous)

2010-07-05 08:28 pm (UTC)

I had not identified it that way, but argh. Why are the youth not cynical? When did fandom get full of them? A lack of time in a soul sucking corporate environment explains a lot actually.

What happened to the bitter old fic queens? They threw the best parties, and talked shit about people with out bothering with the bless your heart first.
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Metafandom

(Anonymous)

2010-07-05 08:43 pm (UTC)

"I'm here from Metafandom" is the shark jump of livejournal.
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Re: Metafandom

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2010-07-06 12:00 am (UTC)

+1111111
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White fandom (the kind that gets posted on metafandom) is way more pissed about the Haiti fic than the A:TLA casting, which seems wrong to me; there wasn't this critical mass of rage and signal-boosting from these people when the cast was announced. That came from the actual fans of color who make up the majority of Racebending. Maybe because the person who fucked up in the J2 situation was a fellow fangirl, and it's more satisfying directing their rage at someone whose pain they can see than some movie director they will never interact with.

I mean, I'm not really complaining. As a fan of color, of course I'd rather have these white women noticing racism than being oblivious to it. But it really proves to me that a lot of them are into anti-racism discourse because they like the way it lets them be venomously self-righteous, not because they actually care about injustice perpetuated against people of color. They seem to revel in the moral high ground that comes with pointing out Fail. I'll take that over the outright racism I have to deal with in rl, but I'm not about to give you a cookie just because you correctly identified a racist fanfic before going back to reading other fic for your racist favorite show.
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But it really proves to me that a lot of them are into anti-racism discourse because they like the way it lets them be venomously self-righteous...

And make a name for themselves as The Most Concerned, Informed, Sensitive Fan, a BNF of outrage.

you correctly identified a racist fanfic before going back to reading other fic for your racist favorite show.

Someone should make a stats listing of the fic written by the loudest Faileeches - I'll bet anything that 99% of it is All White Cock, All The Time.
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