The fail wars are going about and it's time for an anon meme.
Who's pissed you off? Who's right? And who do you really want to exclude from an event?
ETA: leave people's religion alone. Not the time, not the place. PM : sunnycamehome2u or email @gmail if it gets out of hand before I see.
ETA2: ALL fandom fail is on topic. While right now it's disability, VividCon, and Slingbabies, it can be any FandomFail. Mods take a wide view of what is fandom.
ETA3: The entire meme is a "Choose Not to Warn" experience, but that said- there is lots of discussion of sexual assault and triggers in some of the comment threads. Others of course, are about kittens. It is 50/50 which you will stumble into.
People are welcome to make an additional post, or ask the mods to do so.
ETA4: THIS POST IS AT 5100 COMMENTS. TAKE ALL NEW DISCUSSION HERE: http://community.livejournal.com/fail_f
The post as been given a stay. Feel free to finish up conversations in this post till it dies a natural death, peacefully, in it's bed. Without warning.
(Anonymous)
2010-07-05 01:19 am (UTC)
(Anonymous)
2010-07-05 05:42 am (UTC)
(Anonymous)
2010-07-05 01:23 am (UTC)
(Anonymous)
2010-07-07 07:44 pm (UTC)
(Anonymous)
2010-07-05 01:49 am (UTC)
You quote it, I keep score. In fandom it now serves as shorthand for "I'm a fuck up who can't be bothered to write my J2 Big Bang. Buy me a laptop?"
(Anonymous)
2010-07-05 09:19 am (UTC)
(Anonymous)
2010-07-05 01:51 am (UTC)
(Anonymous)
2010-07-05 01:54 am (UTC)
(Anonymous)
2010-07-05 01:57 am (UTC)
(Anonymous)
2010-07-05 02:04 am (UTC)
Breeders Fuck Everything Up
(Anonymous)
2010-07-05 02:06 am (UTC)
Please keep your baby out of my porn. Kthxbye!
Re: Breeders Fuck Everything Up
(Anonymous)
2010-07-05 02:23 am (UTC)
I am certain that kittens will be next. Vividcon Skins Kittens!!!
Breeders still fucking it up
(Anonymous)
2010-07-05 03:13 am (UTC)
http://astolat.dreamwidth.org/216801.htm
deepad states the following:
"I do think that it is important and worthwhile though, for attendees with children to know that while spaces in the com are off-limits for their children, the con as a whole does not disapprove of children in such places as they may be - a parent or guardian should feel welcome to sit and chat in the lobby, or host an unofficial room party, or enter the 2nd floor bathroom, with their kids."
FUCK NO. The CON AS A WHOLE DOES DISAPPROVE. THERE IS GAY PORN AT STAKE.
Unless you want to talk about the latest Sam/Dean/Castiel tentacle rape fic of the lord in earshot of some kid.
Re: Breeders still fucking it up
(Anonymous)
2010-07-10 11:29 pm (UTC)
http://naraht.dreamwidth.org/403950.html?t
...going on about how oppressive it is to teh chyldrunn to ban them from watching adult content. Someone in there is whining about how it's based on what "non-parents" think is child-appropriate. Damn fucking right. I don't want to watch an erotic video with a kid in the room, no matter how well-behaved.
(Anonymous)
2010-07-05 03:37 am (UTC)
(Anonymous)
2010-07-05 04:06 pm (UTC)
And if you have the multiple social disorder and emotional issues people are claiming?
Don't come to the damn con. Sometimes staying home is the better part of valor
(Anonymous)
2010-07-05 03:52 am (UTC)
PERSPECTIVE. PEOPLE. TRY SOME.
(Anonymous)
2010-07-05 03:54 am (UTC)
Hater's Gonna Hate
(Anonymous)
2010-07-05 04:24 am (UTC)
Re: Hater's Gonna Hate
(Anonymous)
2010-07-09 10:04 pm (UTC)
(Anonymous)
2010-07-05 04:53 am (UTC)
who's to say they haven't already done the required reading and still disagree? since when is fucking groupthink the fandom ideal?
(Anonymous)
2010-07-05 05:08 pm (UTC)
intersectionality
privilege check
kyrichary
derail
racism 101
"It is not the responsibility of the oppressed to educate"
Anyone who's really fucking racist? Or privileged? Isn't going to go read some treatise on why they are wrong and oppressing at all times. You wind up just fighting with allies.
Triggers vs. Squick is another sign that the argument is basically lost. When did you ever hear about people's right to avoid either outside of fandom? Can you imagine this in an office context?
(Anonymous)
2010-07-05 04:57 am (UTC)
(Anonymous)
2010-07-05 05:11 am (UTC)
(Anonymous)
2010-07-05 06:03 am (UTC)
(Anonymous)
2010-07-05 06:24 am (UTC)
(Anonymous)
2010-07-05 02:28 pm (UTC)
(Anonymous)
2010-07-05 03:58 pm (UTC)
When's the next rally?
(Anonymous)
2010-07-05 04:19 pm (UTC)
Vividcon Bans Babies!
Vividcon Stomps Kittens!
Vividcon Buggers Llamas
WARNING: CARTOONS!
Re: When's the next rally?
(Anonymous)
2010-07-05 05:03 pm (UTC)
Poll time!
(Anonymous)
2010-07-05 05:33 pm (UTC)
Re: Poll time!
(Anonymous)
2010-07-05 05:43 pm (UTC)
But terrible in execution. The same five people get nominated for everything.
With "Allies" Like This....
(Anonymous)
2010-07-05 05:44 pm (UTC)
"I'm sorry, this is blistering mad but I am so fucking mad I can't take it, I never would have expected this from you and I'm deeply sad and hurt and frustrated and want to go to VVC and basically burn the con down at this point."
http://lcsbanana.dreamwidth.org/17395.ht
(this is livi's comment to lcsbanana's post, not lcsbanana herself)
captcha: gump vehicles
Re: With "Allies" Like This....
(Anonymous)
2010-07-05 05:49 pm (UTC)
(Anonymous)
2010-07-05 05:54 pm (UTC)
(Anonymous)
2010-07-05 06:32 pm (UTC)
Wiscon
(Anonymous)
2010-07-05 07:29 pm (UTC)
Re: Wiscon
(Anonymous)
2010-07-05 07:52 pm (UTC)
As far as I've read their greatest achievement this year was setting up a separate toilet for trans!people...
We need to add this to the Warnings List
(Anonymous)
2010-07-05 07:33 pm (UTC)
I submit this with the utmost respect on behalf of ADD and AHDD sufferers everywhere.
I also object to the use of vid show overflow rooms because it makes serial yakkers, people who want to sing badly while drunk, and people who cannot stop texting feel like second class citizens.
Re: We need to add this to the Warnings List
(Anonymous)
2010-07-05 07:46 pm (UTC)
It's not bad singing if you are drunk. It's community participation.
(Anonymous)
2010-07-05 07:40 pm (UTC)
(Anonymous)
2010-07-05 07:42 pm (UTC)
Defriending
(Anonymous)
2010-07-05 07:51 pm (UTC)
(Anonymous)
2010-07-05 08:11 pm (UTC)
Get off my lawn
(Anonymous)
2010-07-05 08:28 pm (UTC)
What happened to the bitter old fic queens? They threw the best parties, and talked shit about people with out bothering with the bless your heart first.
Metafandom
(Anonymous)
2010-07-05 08:43 pm (UTC)
Re: Metafandom
(Anonymous)
2010-07-06 12:00 am (UTC)
(Anonymous)
2010-07-05 08:51 pm (UTC)
I mean, I'm not really complaining. As a fan of color, of course I'd rather have these white women noticing racism than being oblivious to it. But it really proves to me that a lot of them are into anti-racism discourse because they like the way it lets them be venomously self-righteous, not because they actually care about injustice perpetuated against people of color. They seem to revel in the moral high ground that comes with pointing out Fail. I'll take that over the outright racism I have to deal with in rl, but I'm not about to give you a cookie just because you correctly identified a racist fanfic before going back to reading other fic for your racist favorite show.
(Anonymous)
2010-07-05 09:11 pm (UTC)
And make a name for themselves as The Most Concerned, Informed, Sensitive Fan, a BNF of outrage.
you correctly identified a racist fanfic before going back to reading other fic for your racist favorite show.
Someone should make a stats listing of the fic written by the loudest Faileeches - I'll bet anything that 99% of it is All White Cock, All The Time.